Not true, as my turkey hunting experience has shown. Each ball has a tiny flat, where the sprue was removed. These precision swaged, pure lead round balls are sized properly to work with any rifle or pistol of appropriate caliber. Is it safe to load and shoot two patched round balls out of a muzzleloading rifle. Thompson center 100% cotton round ball shooting patches. Muzzle loader originals black powder cotton shooting patches. At the lunenburg gun show i picked up an old traditions 50 cal shenandoah flintlock for pretty much dirt cheap money. Hornady took their popular round balls and made them tougher by using a lead alloy hardened with antimony to give the extra hardness and penetrating power needed for thickskinned or large game. Cotton or linen patches are used when firing with round balls and are unnecessary. Generally, the patch should be twice the thickness of the windage. Thompson center lubricated round ball shooting patches.
Patches are tightly woven cotton and are resistant to burning. Buffalo arms is closed on the following holidays so that our employees can spend time with their families. Please note that what patch thickness you use will also play a part in what ball size to use. This is my favorite prelubed muzzleloader patch for shooting lead round balls. But if you plan to hunt, dont forget to limit your range to maximum 50 meters. The patching material is the key to be accurate with a round ball load. This leaves the slow twist shooter with only the task of finding proper ball size and patch thickness without having to worry a whole lot about exact powder charge. When you study these fired patches you will notice several things. One method is to load the gun in the same manner as loading a shotgun, substituting the round ball in place of the shot. Im going to start with round ball because its cheaper practice and then mo.
Use in conjunction with traditions lubed patches or. The easiest method to choose the right patch for your round ball rifle. We measure our patches and tweak our loads with micrometers to find. Thompson center 7043 prelubed cotton roundball patches. Conventional wisdom has it that muzzleloading rifles with fasttwist 1. Hornady muzzleloading bullets 50 cal 485 diameter hard. Patch material is made with uniformly woven, high quality 100% cotton. That ball isnt made for big game all the typical brain washed fubar where some think you need plastic, ss, scoped and high priced pretty shaped bullets in. Even the tightest ball patch combination will slip down the barrel and swab the bore as you load. Midsouth carries everything from the muzzleloader, rifle, or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, lead balls, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman, cva, traditions, tc, pyrodex, blackhorn 209, and many more. The loose ball itself drops right down the barrel without a patch, but is quite tight with the patch, which is a tc packaged patch. How to make round cut patches for muzzleloader youtube.
Hornady round balls are made in the most popular calibers. Wheelweight alloy balls are hard to load under this rule of thumb, so try to use pure lead balls. If you spend any time in hunting camps, sooner or later you will hear amazing stories about the longrange performance of modern muzzleloaders. In talking with the guy he said his best load was with 65 gr of 3f using a. The local walmart and the local gun shop both carry. Heres an easy way to make shooting patches for your black powder guns. Whats the rule for ball size and patch size for a given caliber bore. Traditional muzzle loader developing an accurate load for a. You can buy good quality patches in your local blackpowder shop, but you can also make your own. Muzzleloader shooting patches, pillow ticking, and bulk strips. Pillow ticking made of 100% cotton has been the favorite material for traditional muzzleloader shooters down through the ages because of. These prelubricated shooting patches are 100% cotton, come in uniform thickness of. One of my favorite patched round ball rifles of the early 1970s was a copy of an 1850s design that had been built by. Muzzleloading has come a long way from spit patch round balls, soap and water cleaning techniques, powder horns, and bulky shooting bags.
Use in conjunction with traditions lubed patches or with traditions shooting patches dry and apply traditions ez lube. Proven to reduce fouling and save loading and cleaning time. These manufacturers typically recommend a ball ten thousands of an inch smaller than the bore of the rifle with a patch ten thousands inch thick. Thompson center muzzleloader pillow ticking shooting patches. Today, shooters use different approaches to loading the smoothbore with round ball. Shop our wide variety of muzzleloader shooting patches. Hornady muzzleloading bullets 50 caliber 485 diameter hard ball with sabot box of 20. At 25, a patched ball powered by 90gr of black went through four. I can just about get the patched ball, lubed with bore butter started in the muzzle tight fit but then loads and shoots fine. Hand cast round balls are cast from pure soft lead.
Muzzleloader round ball shooters trap shooters forum. Basics of muzzleloading new mexico state university. I chose to start with patched round balls to get a feel for the rifle before i decide if i want to experiment with conical bullets. So, im about to start shooting muzzle loader for the first time and am wondering what size patch i need to get for my. Traditional muzzle loader developing an accurate load. Ive had good results with pillow ticking, but id like to turn a cutter to make precut patches. Round patches are caliber specific and come in 4 different thicknesses. Theres so many sizes i dont know what exact one i need for round ball. Traditions muzzleloader revolver round ball bulk pack is perfectly sized for superior accuracy and performance.
Of course you need to have a proper ball set that seats the ball flush with the muzzle and does not deform it at the same time. This may be mindless wandering, but as the patch comes off the ball after firing, would the shape of the patch, or its lack of concentric fit over. Only the intrinsic low energy properties of black powder propellants and the oneshot limitation inherent to the design restrain muzzleloaders from being as effective as modern rifles. Thin patches arent durable, so youre probably better off with a. Too deep and there is a lot of surplus patching material to catch on your short starter or ramrod. Precision shooting patches for round ball track of the wolf. Traditions performance firearms muzzleloader shooting patches.
Muzzle loader originals shooting patches 30 through 39 cal. Somewhat the opposite is true with round balls in fast twist barrels. New years day, memorial day, independence day, labor day, thanksgiving and the day after, christmas eve open. Round balls in fast twist rifles white muzzle loading. Thompson center unlubricated 100 cotton round ball shooting. Cotton or linen patches are used when firing with round balls and are unnecessary when using conical bullets or shot. Prelubed round ball patches treated with natural lube or wonder lube provide significant bore maintenance, load integrity, and accuracy advantages over dry or spitsoaked patches in muzzleloading rifles.
Black powder wads and projectiles cheaper than dirt. I get excellent accuracy using them and no cutting or lubing is required. The 54 is a proven gun i have been shooting it for over 30 years and have never burnt a patch. Muzzleloader round balls lead round balls for sale. Black powder muzzleloading shooting accessories buffalo arms. The barrel on this gun is stamped thompson and 45 caliber, i need to know what size round ball this thing is likely to accept most readily along with the patch thickness. This article describes how you can load a muzzleloading rifle with a cloth patch and a lead roundball.
Traditions muzzleloader revolver round ball bulk pack. Properly sized and lubed patches and balls will, by actual use, increase velocitry and accuracy. North american muzzleloader hunting shares the truth. Jul 05, 2014 the patching material is the key to be accurate with a round ball load. Older guns have slow twists for round balls or medium twists for conicals, and. Some of us put a cushioned wad between patched ball and powder but the effect is questionable.
Offered as dry, oiled, wonderlubed, or premium lubed on select sizes. Very basically, with black powder in a muzzleloader, you will need to find the. Tightly woven cotton patches are resistant to burning. I read in few places on the internet it is absolutely safe to shoot a patched round ball using a 12ga shotgun providing the bore is a cylinder not choked and the ball fits.
Please check with your firearms manufacturer for recommended lead ball and patch sizes. The tc roundball patches are tightly woven and totally resistant to burning. Anybody know the diameter of patches or patch cutters for patched round ball rifles. Much of this equipment is for convenience or safety, but some of it is necessary before you even fire the weapon. Eouipment a variety of associated equipment is available for the muzzleloader.
The problem is my experience with guns that take a patched round ball is nonexistant so i need some education. At cabelas, you can shop through quality brands like hornady, powerbelt and more. They should all be perfectly round and they will have a black ring in the center. Traditions firearms is the only muzzleloader company that carries a full line of accessories including loading and shooting tools, cleaning accessories, snap caps, training cartridges. The patch is lubricated and then wrapped around the ball during loading. Two things should never be mentioned in the same sentence regarding muzzleloading. These nonlubricated shooting patches are 100% cotton, come in uniform thickness of. Jan 06, 2018 please note that what patch thickness you use will also play a part in what ball size to use. Shooting patches black powder accessories for sale ebay. Could of been my fault but had to end up using a bullet puller. Have a hawken style rifle that i want to use a patched round ball in.
Need some sabots, bullets or round balls for your muzzleloader. Ive thought about just getting the fired patches and measuring them, but patch material stretches and gets frayed on the edges. Hard balls are created with the same exacting precision as. Also, traditional muzzleloader only shooting orgnizations generally require the use of patched round ball only during official muzzleloading target competition. A good patch is made of good quality, dense natural material. They may also recommend a minimum and maximum amount of. How to use lube on a patch and a roundball the high road.
The patch round ball challenge long range hunting forum. That ball isnt made for big game all the typical brain washed fubar where some think you need plastic, ss, scoped and high priced pretty shaped bullets in order to. Stock up your favorite black powder supplies like round balls with the wide selection of items we have here at. When i went to load the rifle i found the patched bullet to be an extremely tight fit. Precision made from special tightly woven cotton, to insure uniformity. The thompson center round ball shooting patches are designed for use in. The secret of muzzleloader accuracy these words on how to achieve muzzleloader accuracy come from cecil epp and i have put them to the test and found that following. Constant thickness, weave, diameter, weight and thread count help eliminate these variables from your shooting. Midsouth carries everything from the muzzleloader, rifle, or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman, cva, traditions, tc, pyrodex, blackhorn 209, and many more. Traditions performance firearms muzzleloader shooting. Midsouth carries everything from the muzzleloader, rifle, or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, lead balls, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman. It was by far the most accurate load in that gun, and while labeled light by a lot of guys, it killed with alacrity.
Precision shooting patches for round ball precision shooting patches. If the patches are torn, cut, or shredded, or you see that the powder burned through the fabric your patching material is too thin. Windage here is the difference between bore diameter and ball diameter. Traditions is not responsilbe for any typographical errors regarding description or price.
Accuracy for me is to hit a golf ball at 100 yards off a benchrest all day long. When loading in this manner push the cushion wad slightly below the muzzle and place the ball sprue down and centered on the wad. What kind of accuracy can i expect out of this gun with round balls. Used with tc patches lubricated with natural lube plus bore butter these. Whats the rule for ball size and patch size for a given.
Brands such as hornady, speer and buffalo meet high standards of round ball manufacturing. The easiest method to choose the right patch for your round. If you are going to use round balls, you need patch material. Those of us who loaded patched round balls instead of conical bullets were forced to hunt hard, get close and make that one shot count. Traditions round balls are perfectly sized for superior accuracy and performance. Place this flat spot on top, centered on your muzzle. Each ball is perfect, no shrinkage, no sprue, no wrinkles. Please allow up to 7 days for your order to process. When wyatt earp was hunting buffalo, he used a 10ga doublebarrel shotgun loaded with round ball shells. I shoot paper cartridges like they did in the armies in the 18 century, and i like the size of the round ball to be just a little smaller. This way, patches are always centered and exactly the right size. I have fired round balls from my ml shotgun and would consider using it on deersized game.
Large variations in powder charge dont seem to make much difference. The trick is to load them down to levels where the patches are not torn up. The easiest method to choose the right patch for your. Thompson center black powder cotton shooting patches. Theyre cold swaged from pure lead which eliminates air pockets and voids common to cast balls. The thompson center lubricated round ball shooting patches are designed for use on. How to make patches for black powder shooting youtube. Accuracy is plenty good within 50 yards or so to put the balls in the boiler room.
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